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    well your good old canada may be a super power in your eyes the fact is their army is underfunded and has been for some years. face it if some crazy middle eastern guy atacked you guys you would be unprepared.According to your Defence Minister John McCallumthe ability of the Canadian Forces to sail for the Persian Gulf is not "up in the air." Example at the start of march 2003 one of canada's sea king helicopters crashed into the destroyers on deck. the minister said "the oldest ship-borne helicopter in our dilapidated fleet fell to the ship"."Canada's Sea Kings are grounded on average for thirty hours of maintenance for each hour of flight time" said David Russell. there are only 3,500 Canadian troops serving on various missions around the world. But the Canadian Prime Minister informed the public that because of those commitments, "our forces are stretched very very thin"."the military, already strapped for cash by the tune of $635 million this year alone, has to spend
    some $50 million on various projects including a soil erosion
    investigation at one particular Canadian Forces base." The national post april 2004.in your face Brightside

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    We weren't denying that Canada is not the world's greatest military power. We were merely denying your assertion "what wars has canada been in besides the war of 1812. you got lucky there kinda."

    I've met bricks with more subtle strawmen than this...

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    well I mainly did that for Brightside. i know that i asked about the past but every one got up in arms bout how canada's so great
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    Yes, but Brightside never said that Canada was a world power, either. He just said that they joined both World Wars before America did, along with the rest of the British Commonwealth.

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    I think Tony just types random letters out in an attempt to annoy people, atleast, that's my best guess, based on his arguementative ability
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    Quote Originally Posted by karragh
    I think Tony just types random letters out in an attempt to annoy people, atleast, that's my best guess, based on his arguementative ability
    You wouldn't be able to get something like that just randomly.

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    I'm of the opinion that he deliberately uses the dramatic opposite argument of what he perceives to be the norm in order to provoke debate (i.e. Capitalism in a Communist Guild). In other words, technically a troll, but an interesting rather than malicious one, since he sticks around to keep contributing.

    On the other hand, if he is a malicious troll, he isn't a good one. He certainly hasn't bothered me any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Himiko
    I'm of the opinion that he deliberately uses the dramatic opposite argument of what he perceives to be the norm in order to provoke debate (i.e. Capitalism in a Communist Guild). In other words, technically a troll, but an interesting rather than malicious one, since he sticks around to keep contributing.

    On the other hand, if he is a malicious troll, he isn't a good one. He certainly hasn't bothered me any.
    I've never seen any impressive trolls. They all managed to get themselves banned in good time.

    If someone wants to make a fool of themself and keep the communist guild alive, I guess I can't complain.

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    That's why I used interesting rather than impressive. Impressive would be if he actually managed to successfully defend that extreme rather than take off on tangents as he has.

    EDIT: Perhaps amusing, though, may fit just as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Himiko
    That's why I used interesting rather than impressive. Impressive would be if he actually managed to successfully defend that extreme rather than take off on tangents as he has.

    EDIT: Perhaps amusing, though, may fit just as well.
    Yeah, that article he linked to was rather rich. John Kerry and his fucking communists....haha.

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    Congratulations idiots you figured out what I posted a couple a days ago. You should refer to my first post here at your guild."If your wondering why a pro capitalism guy came in a communist Gulid the answer is I was bored and wanted to piss of a few people just because I can." I said on page 20. himiko "dramatic opposite argument of what he perceives to be the norm in order to provoke debate" looks whos talking bout the norm all your post sound like you have a thesaurus glued to your computer( I don't want to get personal or anything but what do you do all day). Also karragh you think your post are soild gold "Aren't those U-locks really really hard to cut through? Perhaps youshould get one of those...". Troll why are you talking about trolls this is not some crazy everquest game. We in america were use swear words like big boys.

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    Tony, I'm not quite sure what you've tried to accomplish. But I can say with confidence you did fail at pissing anybody off. But on the other hand, you did manage to make a total ass of yourself. Bravo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Congratulations idiots you figured out what I posted a couple a days ago. You should refer to my first post here at your guild."If your wondering why a pro capitalism guy came in a communist Gulid the answer is I was bored and wanted to piss of a few people just because I can." I said on page 20. himiko "dramatic opposite argument of what he perceives to be the norm in order to provoke debate" looks whos talking bout the norm all your post sound like you have a thesaurus glued to your computer( I don't want to get personal or anything but what do you do all day). Also karragh you think your post are soild gold "Aren't those U-locks really really hard to cut through? Perhaps youshould get one of those...". Troll why are you talking about trolls this is not some crazy everquest game. We in america were use swear words like big boys.
    What the hell was that? Stop trying to piss people off or I'll personally shorten your stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Also karragh you think your post are soild gold "Aren't those U-locks really really hard to cut through? Perhaps youshould get one of those...".
    I? Have no clue what that was supposed to mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by foreverzero
    I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, Democracy > Communism
    And you see Democracy? Where?
    And for all theoretical, practical purposes, communism is and has been a counter thesis to capitalism. Your inherent bias towards communism is quite apparent when you from the start are equating it with the absence of democracy.

    But I think Xaenn has already elaborated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Himiko
    Rather, Marxist Communism does espouse two governmental polities as well as the economic system. The transition socialist dictatorship, which would ultimately voluntarily give up power to make way for the true government-less Communism once the people were ready for it. The dictatorship was chosen because it was an era of autocracy Marx saw at work (most significantly the Liberal Revolutions of 1848 in France, Germany, Austria, Italy...pretty much every country in Europe except Russia, which had just been through a major rebellion twenty years earlier, and the United Kingdom, which was already ahead of the curve; this is also why he never seriously considered the possibilities of peaceful transition in a democratic system), and thus an autocracy which would provide the necessary absolutist controls over everything societal in order to mold the next generations as needed. Even so, however, it needed an era of unchanging pure capitalism, something that will not happen. Even the American system, one of the purest children of Adam Smith, contains elements of Marxism in its labour unions, wage laws, fair labour laws, and other government regulation of the economy (Ironically, Adam Smith warned strongly against allowing monopolies via a complete laisse faire system because these adversely affected the market forces he postulated on).
    Zephyr, when Marx talked of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat in 1875 in the Critique of the Gotha Program, he empployed it merely to describe the transitionary period between dying capitalism and nascent communism and says the 'state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat'. The term is used to mean the concentration of power in the hands of the proletariat rather than an oppresive order conventionally described by the word 'dictatorship'.
    For instance he used the term 'dictatorship of the bourgeoisie' to describe capitalism. And there is to be a dictatorship of and by, not over, the proletariat.
    And even Marx had predicted that the revolution would take place in the most advanced capitalist nation, but it would be the most difficult to bring about here, b/c he had predicted that the country would foresee discontent and mass organization against its polity and economy and thus there was the welfare state that Keynes propounded, and this had to be done, there has to labour aristocracy in a capitalist nation, which is a clear manifestation and proof of co-option, or else, the system would not survive. Reagan was a smart one. He knew the exact time to bring in the free market all over again and thus Reaganomics and the New Right.
    But America in the late 1940's needed its dose of welfarism to maintain its hegemony in the world economic system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xena

    China, the largest communist country in the world, Will be a democracy, 3 of the countrys super leaders have already agreed on this.

    Bye Communism.
    That's wrong in so many ways.

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