Muslims just can't get a break can they?

[Paladin_Hammer]

Another Stampede

Remember the one last year during Ramadan in Iraq, when a ton of Muslims started running across a bridge due to someone yelling 'bomber'? Well, after reading the article, stampede's during holy times in Islam are getting sadly common.

But this one happened in Mecca, due to a "traffic jam". Is anyone else kinda amazed at this? I'm a little stunned.

(PS: Non of this post is meant to offend Muslims. I'm just speculating on what the article relates to me.)

[aratorn]

Yeah. really a sad shit. happens in mecca every year.they just can't get enogh.

[Clive]

Bad planning and bad crowd control, it would seem, are the main causes of such stampedes.

I dont pretend to understand the 'why' of such fervous religious devotion that leads to said crowd problems, but if several hundreds of thousands of people are trying to get to the same place, at the same time, then there is bound to be difficulties and, to my mind, the authorities are largely accountable.

[pharaoh_man]

Uh dudes Im muslim Im muslims Im not a killer but What I say is everyone has there Own weird perspective on islam and jihad it Very weird I would like to say a few things That "Imam" Is a cheap ____ our prophet Mohammed Tolerated Other religons and did not kill anyone For god sake lol Im mean it stupid

[Vivi]

Uh dudes Im muslim Im muslims Im not a killer but What I say is everyone has there Own weird perspective on islam and jihad it Very weird I would like to say a few things That "Imam" Is a cheap ____ our prophet Mohammed Tolerated Other religons and did not kill anyone For god sake lol Im mean it stupid

It's Bush's fault your people are pissed at us.

He said on national tv, he was going to launch a "Crusade" Good fucking job Bush... He doesn't even follow the amendments. Seperation between Church and State, Crusades are a realigous thing, especially when you say your going launch one.. He is a dumbass.

[pharaoh_man]

I despise it when people have mistaken islam for a violent and hateful relgion, there are extremests of every kind , colour , and relgion . and lots of people get the wrong view on relgions from the media. i would like to make it clear that the name of the relgion it self states 'peace' and that islam is a relgion of tolerance , and patience. though we do have our bad people and terrorists and such. and i personally do not agree with that and find it appauling that people would do such things to other humans, other innocent humans.

[Vivi]

I despise it when people have mistaken islam for a violent and hateful relgion, there are extremests of every kind , colour , and relgion . and lots of people get the wrong view on relgions from the media. i would like to make it clear that the name of the relgion it self states 'peace' and that islam is a relgion of tolerance , and patience. though we do have our bad people and terrorists and such. and i personally do not agree with that and find it appauling that people would do such things to other humans, other innocent humans.

Most of us Americans know this, Its our leaders fault for saying somthing so retarded to begin with. But then agian your "extremest" Blame all of us citizens over what that dipshit said. It's a cycle of he say she say.... I have nothing agianst any religion what so ever, I'm nothing, will never be anything..

[Soeru]

Quit throwing the blame on your oblivious governor, more than half of the country voted for him right? Everyone is responsible for this problem. He doesn't know half of the crap that's going on outside of the US, hence why 9/11 was such a big surprise to everyone.

If more people were knowledgeable about the rest of the planet, a governor with plans for a different foreign policy would've been elected. This does not apply solely to Bush, you know.

Lack of worldly education is what makes the problem worse. I have nothing against voting Americans, but please do more research on what your governor is going to do and think it over better for the next elections. Everyone wants to blame Bush... that's just wrong. It's ok to admit that half of the country wasn't thinking right in that voting booth, just be pick up more education for next time.

[Vivi]

Quit throwing the blame on your oblivious governor, more than half of the country voted for him right? Everyone is responsible for this problem. He doesn't know half of the crap that's going on outside of the US, hence why 9/11 was such a big surprise to everyone.

If more people were knowledgeable about the rest of the planet, a governor with plans for a different foreign policy would've been elected. This does not apply solely to Bush, you know.

Lack of worldly education is what makes the problem worse. I have nothing against voting Americans, but please do more research on what your governor is going to do and think it over better for the next elections. Everyone wants to blame Bush... that's just wrong. It's ok to admit that half of the country wasn't thinking right in that voting booth, just be pick up more education for next time.

Don't get me started on the "Weapons of mass destruction"....
Clintons to blame for 911. And you, infact sound like a republican.
Also, you trying to argue my intelligence is the wrong thing to do as a "Moderator" Though nobody seems to care here. Anywho, If you honestly want to call some one out like that, do it in a more fashonable manor. This isn't your debate to get into because you don't sound to open to, "Opinions".

I have the right to say I hate Bush, you infact can't do anything about it, don't even try to make me respect the man that cant talk, yet trys to push our education on us?

Here is a good read if you think so highly of the man: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156...lance&n=283155
I will gladly leave it at that, even with what you have to say.
Until next time.

[Soeru]

And you, infact sound like a republican.

It's funny how the minute you disagree with a certain point, it hurls you to an extreme side of the political spectrum. No, as a matter of fact I am quite against right wing politics, especially the US' current legislature.

Also, you trying to argue my intelligence is the wrong thing to do as a "Moderator" Though nobody seems to care here. Anywho, If you honestly want to call some one out like that, do it in a more fashonable manor. This isn't your debate to get into because you don't sound to open to, "Opinions".

Never argued your intelligence, as you put it. Bush was elected by people. The majority of people who voted for him were uneducated, but so are many that voted for Kerry. Throwing the blame at someone else while ignoring one's own shortcomings is something right-wing fascists have done for ages. Blame the Jews, blame the immigrants, blame minorities, but no one ever assumes their own responsibility. Lack of education is the problem, everyone is to take blame, not just an old middle aged man.

I have the right to say I hate Bush, you infact can't do anything about it, don't even try to make me respect the man that cant talk, yet trys to push our education on us?

You sure do, it's in your Constution and Bill of Rights. If you want to argue that grammar should be the only thing that earns you respect, lets say that you aren't looking too favorable right now.

So what if he a dolt and pushes education on the kids? Isn't that a nice gesture? How quickly we forget the good things a governor does once he fucks up.

Here is a good read if you think so highly of the man: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156...lance&n=283155
I will gladly leave it at that, even with what you have to say.
Until next time.

I don't think highly of him one bit, but it's just as ridiculous to be so one-sided.

[Jase]

At my home town, there is a smaller town called Yallurn north when we got into fights with them they would ALWAYS throw stones at us, i just seen on the news a muslim died cos of a rock throwing, i blame the northies!!!!

[pharaoh_man]

It's Bush's fault your people are pissed at us.

He said on national tv, he was going to launch a "Crusade" Good fucking job Bush... He doesn't even follow the amendments. Seperation between Church and State, Crusades are a realigous thing, especially when you say your going launch one.. He is a dumbass.

well 'my people' may be pissed off for what reason they hold but i find it grusum and discusting that terrorist attacsk still ahppen, and a crusade was the worst term he could have used, the last crusade was a masacre , blood of so many people from diffrent countries all fighting for their relgion and their place in teh world.... this war hasnt evolved to a crusade yet .... but if what is happenin today continues ... it wont be far

[Vivi]

It's Bush's fault your people are pissed at us.

He said on national tv, he was going to launch a "Crusade" Good fucking job Bush... He doesn't even follow the amendments. Seperation between Church and State, Crusades are a realigous thing, especially when you say your going launch one.. He is a dumbass.

well 'my people' may be pissed off for what reason they hold but i find it grusum and discusting that terrorist attacsk still ahppen, and a crusade was the worst term he could have used, the last crusade was a masacre , blood of so many people from diffrent countries all fighting for their relgion and their place in teh world.... this war hasnt evolved to a crusade yet .... but if what is happenin today continues ... it wont be far

Another reason, They are pissed how we making a Monoply of the world with our fast food and everything else. I don't agree with us doing it, yet Terroists will still kill me. Make sense? No, it doesn't. Pretty screwed up. And do the Jews really deserve what they are getting in Israel? It's a cycle, never ending as I see it. Which is why I choose to be nothing.

[Xaenn]

Another reason, They are pissed how we making a Monoply of the world with our fast food and everything else. I don't agree with us doing it, yet Terroists will still kill me.

It is only able to occur due to American consent.

Vivi: I'm sure respecting Bush is not high on Soeru's list of things for you to do.

[pharaoh_man]

But then agian your "extremest" Blame all of us citizens over what that dipshit said. It's a cycle of he say she say.... I have nothing agianst any religion what so ever, I'm nothing, will never be anything..

yah thats wrong caseu every persons vote can change who will be the next political leader, if u can vote , go out and vote during elections, pay close attention to campigening , and figure out which of the two candidate will actully do more for the good of ur country then , some one who will fail ur country , and hold unjust wars in the name of your country and or relgion